"Vibing" in aesthetic conversations is definitely not about achieving convergence of some sort (although that happy outcome would not be rejected by the conversants) but more about a tacit or explicit agreement of "de gustibus non disputandum est" being in force for the time. How does vibing enter into that form of specialized conversation we call debate? Did Siskel and Ebert ever debate? If debate and non-adversarial disagreement fundamentally differ, can we not admit the possibility of conversations that during the time of their occurrence go in and out of those two modes. Hybrids? Very interesting topic! Thank you.
This is awesome Nick. As a regular consumer of criticism podcasts, I'm actually quite surprised anyone has actually argued that convergence is the goal. I mean, its interesting to note that people do try to convince, and the fact that there are concessions is an interesting phenomenon. But the idea that someone who really dislikes Taylor Swift and a Swifty who are otherwise friends are trying to converge on an aesthetic judgment about the new album is bananas. The fun of listening as an outsider, or as a partisan to that debate, has nothing to do with convergence!!
"Vibing" in aesthetic conversations is definitely not about achieving convergence of some sort (although that happy outcome would not be rejected by the conversants) but more about a tacit or explicit agreement of "de gustibus non disputandum est" being in force for the time. How does vibing enter into that form of specialized conversation we call debate? Did Siskel and Ebert ever debate? If debate and non-adversarial disagreement fundamentally differ, can we not admit the possibility of conversations that during the time of their occurrence go in and out of those two modes. Hybrids? Very interesting topic! Thank you.
This is awesome Nick. As a regular consumer of criticism podcasts, I'm actually quite surprised anyone has actually argued that convergence is the goal. I mean, its interesting to note that people do try to convince, and the fact that there are concessions is an interesting phenomenon. But the idea that someone who really dislikes Taylor Swift and a Swifty who are otherwise friends are trying to converge on an aesthetic judgment about the new album is bananas. The fun of listening as an outsider, or as a partisan to that debate, has nothing to do with convergence!!